The subject MIP 2009 has ended,
From the evaluation we got back from the students about what they learned I give you the following points. I selected a series from the feedbackform that I got from our Admin to show you the differences in experience. In answer to the question ‘what did you learn from the course?’
6. I learned how consultancy works in real life. How to talk with clients, how to gather information.
7. How to work and act as a consultant
8. Not really something that I did not learned during the projects in my previous study. (things like
the importance of deriving the right customer wishes and things like that
9. Working in a group, and handle with the problems during the process with my group members
10.how to write a consultancy report, and working on a practice base of doing research and writing a report that will be used for practice goals.
11. Cooperation with teammates from different tracks.
12. Writing a consultancy report
14. Working in groups
15. working in a team on reallife case
17. I improved my analytical skills along with presenting and explaining to practitioners. Specifically about our project, I learned a little bit more about the Dutch Judiciary system. Learned how to work in small\large scale group with people from different backgrounds.
18. Real life case. Balance between rationalism and people.
“Levenservaring’ is the best term I can come up with.
The deliverables are so intangible that it is hard to adequately describe what I have learned.
To me it shows that its very difficult to teach and make all involved happy. Many people think they are not learning but its never true. There should be something you could learn if only how NOT to organise a subject or how NOT to conduct a consulting job or for that matter, how NOT to mentor. If you did not learn anything during 2 months you could be in the wrong program.
Some of the mentors do sense, during the course, that the students go through a development, learning a lot from the experience and having difficulties with applying what they have learned before. We see students do a very professional job, excelling in all that is asked from them and even surpassing the expectations of the client and the mentor.
Apart from that some of the mentors also sense that some students are naive in their approach of companies, lack practical experience and some mentors even question the value of this type of education (MSC in BA) for recruiting companies. Many students don’t have any practical experience once they enter working life. It seems students have not much affinity with the process of work, doing business and handling professional relationships.
The question ‘Which aspects of the course should be
improved according to you?’ yielded some of the following:
2. Regel voldoende opdrachten voor de gehele groep of regel geen enkele opdracht. Dit is zo flauw. Wat is dan het nut van het feit dat we zelf een organisatie dienen te vinden? Zo doe je af aan je eigen opdracht. Ontzettend krom..
9. I really do not like that we cannot pick our own teammembers. Although I do not have real problems with my group, but it somehow felt uncomfertable in a project as in important as this one. This didn’t gave me the exciting feeling to do the project as I wish I could have. I know in real life you cannot pick your collagues and clients as well, but at least you have a choice to work there or not. Also, the handing out of the projects were chaotic. With a lot of ‘fighting’ over the projects, my teammate and I managed to get one. Also, the project was really far. I had to travel 2,5 hours to visit the company.
19. MIP takes a lot more time when you want to do a good investigation.
20. Frankly it is quite idiotic to organize assignments for 1/2 of the group. Either don’t organize
assignments at all or you make sure you have enough assignments for all the groups.
21. Time schedule. The input is way too much for a course of 3 credits.
22 It should be entirely English speaking course – for everyone. The groups are too big. Communicate the requirements more clearly.
The question: ‘Which aspects of the course are you satisfied with?’ was answered with the following first 9 points of 39
1. good idea to practice real consulting project.
2. Het concept, het idee dat we als studenten zelf een organisatie zoeken om daar advies aan te
geven. Het kan heel leerzaam zijn, maar de structuur van het vak doet hier aan af. Er worden veel kansen gemist omdat het niet goed, of half geregeld is.
3. it is a real-life case, which makes it interesting. students get to learn how the consultancy works
4. Good tutorial teacher!
5. Flexiable time arrangement
7. emparical course, team composed with students from different specialization
8. real life experience.
9. Practical perspective of this course. The course takes up too much time to be worth only 3 ECTS. It is not in proportion.
There is not a lot of guidance from the faculty, but maybe that is not needed. It is a good opportunity to get know the consulting world.
The mentors need to involve students more, give more feedback (structure and feedback are really needed) and give more attention. There was a difference between the approaches of mentors which is normal in teaching. This could have been solved by more communication between mentors. The distribution of assignments definitely should have been better and the composition of teams was not up to standard.
Some months ago the news got out the subject will be dropped in the new program starting 2010. I hope some new experience oriented course or internship will come back.